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| Remaining H1B Cap | Zero | Zero | Total Remaining = ZERO |
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Here is my guess…
USCIS is obligated to take all applications until April 5.. As many of you have posted, they have mentioned that they will do a press release or release a statement on the day or a day after the limit is reached.. Which means, if they reached the 65k limit on Tuesday, they will still take application until Friday and lottery them all together… But they would announced on Wednesday that they reached the limit.. So I am guessing that they have not reached the limit till yesterday.. Even if they do reach or exceed the limit today, it could be somewhere around 66k to 70k and may not be more than that…
So – best case scenario – no lottery. worst case – lottery with a 90% chance for everyone….
Just my 2 cents
Agree
But as per my understanding, USCIS is not going to announce even if they had reached a cap limit within this 5 days instead they are going to collect howmuch ever applications for this 5 days and hopefully by monday we will know the actual count incase if there is going to be a lottery, correct me if i am wrong, thanks.
Yes agree with this comment… they will recieve till 5th and then only they will release a note may be on Monday with actual numbers.
Here is an extract from their March 15 Statement
“USCIS will monitor the number of petitions received and notify the public of the date on which the numerical limit of the H-1B cap has been met.”
It can be interpreted in both ways… 🙂
as you said, it can be taken in both the ways. 🙂 lets hope the cap is not yet filled and there is no lottery. best of luck everyone guys…
We have to interpret using precise English here.
USCIS states”…it will notify (at some point in time – it could be at the end of Week 1 or at any time after that) of the date which the numerical limit of the H-1B cap has been met”.
So if USCIS decides that no notifications are given until April 8th and the cap was reached on April 2nd then USCIS will let us know on April 8th that the cap was reached in April 2nd, however all visa applications received up to and including the 5th will go into a lottery.
If the cap is reached let’s say after April 5th (i.e. on April 11th) then at some point in time (could be the next day – April 12th), USCIS will notify us that the cap was reached on April 11th and no more application will be accepted.
I hope that makes sense
that was helpful. thanks
guys, check here cap reached for both..lottery..
..http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=5051f359827dd310VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=e7801c2c9be44210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) announced today that it has received a sufficient number of H-1B petitions to reach the statutory cap for fiscal year (FY) 2014. USCIS has also received more than 20,000 H-1B petitions filed on behalf of persons exempt from the cap under the advanced degree exemption. After today, USCIS will not accept H-1B petitions subject to the FY 2014 cap or the advanced degree exemption.
Is H1B 2014 first come first serve? Or it has changed to the first 5 days are acceptable range for the visa?
Where can we find the amended rules regarding this new change?
If there is no rules specifically said that first 5 days visas are all acceptable, then it is safe to assume that the quota hasn’t been filled until now.
I was just listening the FM radio where they have announced that DOL has announced that in the mointh of March, 88000 LCA have been filed. There could have been more filing on January, Feb, too. That also inclides renewal, job change etc etc. I am posting this news just to have a glimps from the DOL.
These are my cents. Now experts has to comment !!!!
The 88K number you heard is not related to LCA at all. Thats the DOLs month’s report on Jobs added under the current administration.
Proof: http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/05/news/economy/march-jobs-report/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Updates :
Hi guys ..there is an update published in Times of India today. I don’t know whether it is wrong or right, but please take a look on that.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/outsourcing/H-1B-visas-US-receives-50000-applications-on-first-day/articleshow/19394784.cms
It says 50,000 applications reached on day 1 for regular cap (65,000). They didn’t mention anything about advanced degree cap (20,000).
Thanks
Amlan
First unofficial counts available
Here is the first H1B Visa 2014 Cap Count Update – 50,000 H1B Visa Applications on Day 1 ( April 1, 2013)
This is still unofficial news coming from FCi Federal, company supplying workers to USCIS service centers. This news is first reported by Computer World.
With 50,000 H1B visa Applications in Day 1, H1B Visa lottery is certain.
Stay tuned for more updates.
This news shows that USCIS press release did create a sense of urgency, mini-panic among employers to file the H1B application is first 5 days of April.
Now, we know H1B Visa 2014 Lottery is real possibility.
Old news! It is all gossips.
Doesnt make sense. Clearly the article states that these are estimates. And “numbers fell sharply on second day”? I dont trust that simply because at that rate cap would have reached on 3rd day and exceeded by 4th.
We should receive official news by Monday and I have a feeling we are in for a surprise due to the stringent rules and all.
Best of luck to all aspirants!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIRST UNOFFICIAL COUNTS:
U.S. gets flood of H-1B petitions on first day
http://www.happyschoolsblog.com/h1b-visa-2014-cap-count-50000/
US receives 50,000 packages of H-1B visa applications on first day
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3004376/posts?page=6
This year’s cap has not reached till yday. There are couple of things
Implicit in Uscis statement. It expects at least 5 days to get the cap reached. That is a chance that they expect. It does not mean they will wait till 8th to give another if cap has already been reached. Last 2 years they did it after one week since the cap was not reached. When they had that scenario in 2008 FY , they updated that early itself.
So don’t be panic. All is well!!!!
you are right
Agree with Follower…
Friends, please refer this link to know the exact process followed in case CAP fills up within the decided date (5th April in this case), if you have not gone through as of now.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/H1BFY08Cap040307.pdf
My Friend James, do you think US Gov is interested in the visa fees of few thousand dollars? They actually spend way more on the actual process and department than we pay them as Visa fees. Fees are refundable if your file comes back unless the case of duplication.
They working hours have started for the last day, let’s wait for few hours and I truly wish all of you will get good news.
Well I think they updated exactly after 5 business days…on 04/08/2008
2008 is a different story, at that time they will not consider first 5 days application equal chance for lottery. so only the first two days received packages were subject to lottery while applications received in day 3 were returned. Starting from FY 2009 they revised the rule and they will not publish any official updates until next monday.
I don’t know how legitimate this website, but they said that USCIS received 50000+ petition on the first day
http://www.siliconindia.com/news/usindians/US-Receives-50000-Packages-of-H1B-Petitions-on-First-Day-nid-144703-cid-49.html?utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=l1
Reading this forum and comments i am disgusted reading all these comments. Its alarming to see the the mannerism and conduct of the so called “high skilled workers”.
100 people have asked any update on the cap and speculating about the cap? Really? Can’t you just go to uscis website and check for a press release.
another bunch of people are arguing aimlessly at who should get preference.
another bunch are throwing personal attacks at each other.
and finally there is this group of people just trolling on this forum.
Make this an informative forum. Probably only Indians come and troll here. Probably we are not desperate to get that visa as you all are.
Hey Foriegn..shit…worker,
What do you mean by Indian troll here, many of my Chinese friends are accessing this site and checking out updates, my friend Martinez (Panamanian) from my college has made upto the headlines in Bloomberg, for how much this H1b is important to her.
Nd you r saying Indians are desparate.
I m disgusted with your personal attacks, you shit hole, get lost.
I am one of those Chinese friends who are accessing this site. Hope all applicants, regardless of nationalities, get their H1B status this year, because they earn it.
Hey mate,
People are anxious and by talking out loud make them calm so everyone is just talking what is in their mind. They all go to USCIS but they can not post comment there that is why everyone is here. Another point if you search h1 b petition count 2014 in google. This is the first website in his result so people just go to the first link and open it.
And now you have become the very kind of person that you claimed you had been disgusted by.
that a nice one 🙂
ForeignWorker, ignore these moron. They already ruined their country and watching it rapped. Some of these so called “Highly Skilled Workers” have already ruined their country and going to all over the world to make a big mess everywhere. Most of them are manner less clowns, with no common sense, worst managers or technical person with no people skill, and are just self centered and money minded. They make lots of noise where ever they are. (It sounds harsh, but that is the bitter truth.)
Disgusting.
Good luck to those who really deserve the chance. Just remember, wherever you are, you are going to make it a better place.
Saurabh, if you are reading this, can you please delete all these comments (including mine)? I am sorry to write this but GIJ, raj and alike just provoked
Don’t use Gods name and I am sure you well mannered clawn you are of one those deserving people who should already have Greencard or be a citizen now.
So get lost from this site!!!!
No. I am no one. And it doesn’t matter.
You chase your dream brother. No one is against you. As long as you donot run over others. Everyone deserve a fair and equal chance. That is the point.
The most import thing in this case, (in fact everywhere) is PATIENCE and RIGHT ATTITUDE. Sooner or later, you will land in USA and you will forget everything. So just focus on your goal but if you can give other a little respect, may be everyone will feel better.
Good luck everyone. May GOD be with you.
First of all you need to learn giving respect to the other, Here is what you said, first you call everyone here moron, then you said that we have ruined our country and watching it rapped, then we are neither good manager nor good technical and now you are teaching us a lesson of patience, right attitude and giving respect to everyone. I think you should learn giving respect to other first and then say something and if you can’t then stop being over smart. whoever you are you think but you are pathetic person. So stop posting anything over here and stop being over smart.
Well I admit my mistake and apologize for the rude behavior. I did not say everyone here are moron. Anyway, lets forget it. I am sorry about that.
About attitude, well you might also have realized the behavior of onsite manager and offshore managers/team member. Offshore people are treated like trash by SOME OF so called onsite people. Why this is not in case of other people who are from another countries including USA? I mean, MANY Indians come to USA to SHOW they are above others and behave like they have attained the license to mistreat anyone. I respect their efforts skills, and hard work but may be not their attitude.
I hope you will understand my point Raj.
And I am again really sorry to hurt you and other. My sincere apologies, and I mean it.
hey Foreign worker,
If you are that smart then why you come here on this forum. Get you ass outta here. Stick to USCIS website. you surf this forum and comment here, it means you are also one of them. dumb ass you dont know what you are talking abt.
@ foreign worker…Practice than preach
and to answer your question, Yes people are disussing few things even though they know the answers, because they want to release some pressure and we r making sure we r all on same boat. and its none of ur busisness who wants visa or not…if we Indians leave this country, this country will be in crisis. so shhhhh
So?
Spot on! Reading this forum posts I understood that 80% of applicants are indian IT people. Not fair to the rest of the world 🙂
India and China are the only countries who cannot participate in yearly green card lottery by USCIS. They can only come through H1-b. Adding up to this, every 5th person in this world is Indian. So yes 80% are Indians 🙂
You are mentioning about personal attacks and trolls and you are making the same mistake…
Grow up dude…..
Cap has NOT been reached. IF cap is reached, USCIS would announce 5th as final receipt date to avoid unnecesary submissions beyond 5th that will be rejected. They must notify immediately when cap is reached and give final receipt date and that is what they did in 2008.
Jk1. I totally agreed with you. If by the end of today April 5th, we don’t received any update from USCIS, That will mean that the CAP has not been reached.
USCIS WILL NOT ANNOUNCE IF THEY RECEIVED MORE THAN 65000 APPLICATION IN 1ST-5TH APRIL AS THEY DONT WANT TO LOOSE ON FILING FEES. USCIS WILL COLLECT ALL APPLICATION AND DO LOTTERY AS FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE SO IT IS THEIR PROFIT.
not agree because in 2008 they publish the report on April 3. You can find the link in this forum itself, so cap has not reached so far.
The rule in 2008 was different .. in 2010 they changed the rule to allow 5 days for filing the petitions. So they will wait and if the submissions are higher than 65k they will go for lottery. It’s not first come, first serve anymore.
What we need to understand here is, because USCIS said they may go for lottery everyone tried to send petitions on first day itself. So , I guess unless a postal delay everyone would have sent applications on 1st April itself.
TOI reported that some agency which contracts workers to USCIS told it that USCIS received 50K on 1st April. Given reputation of TOI, i dont believe this news, but this is what they have reported.
Visa application fees is refundable if the application is not selected in the lottery.
They send the application and check back to the employer.
that is true 🙂 so finger cross
yes Visa fees is refundable, they dont want to to and fro the applications.
USCIS will return all the fees if the petitions are not selected, so it is not true that they will make these profits.
All, how would you interpret news like this:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/05/news/economy/march-jobs-report/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Has to be somewhat of a good signal for us?
To all my fellow h1b applicants, if you think the cap count is 65,000 then it is wrong. it is only 58,200. So think your strategies and predictions about that number.
Below statement from uscis:
The current annual cap on the H-1B category is 65,000. Not all H-1B nonimmigrants are subject to this annual cap. Please note that up to 6,800 visas are set aside from the cap of 65,000 during each fiscal year for the H-1B program under the terms of the legislation implementing the U.S.-Chile and U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreements. Unused numbers in this pool are made available for H-1B use for the next fiscal year.
Guys, any updates for current H1B filing count ?
nope but one thing for sure that cap has not yet reached else you would have the notification about it
Agree !
SG and Chile are not part of 65000, your understanding is wrong. it’s really 65000
Hi filer you wrong.
read this: from http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=4b7cdd1d5fd37210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=73566811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD
“…Cap Amounts
The current annual cap on the H-1B category is 65,000. Not all H-1B nonimmigrants are subject to this annual cap. Please note that up to 6,800 visas are set aside from the cap of 65,000 during each fiscal year for the H-1B program under the terms of the legislation implementing the U.S.-Chile and U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreements. Unused numbers in this pool are made available for H-1B use for the next fiscal year….”
SG and Chile are part of 65K
If you have a US higher-ed degree (“masters quota”), it seems that you should be *exempt* from the lottery if you are among the first 20,000 such masters-quota applicants. Per this statement in USCIS’ March 15 2013 bulletin: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f537eff29cb6d310VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=68439c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD
“The cap (the numerical limitation on H-1B petitions) for FY 2014 is 65,000. In addition, the first 20,000 H-1B petitions filed on behalf of individuals with U.S. master’s degree or higher are exempt from the fiscal year cap of 65,000.”
Thoughts?
Last day of the first week!! Guys, what’s ur estimate for the number of H1B’s received for the general quota?
My guess is:
General count: 77,000
Master’s Count: 17,000
Anyone else? We can check who had the best guess on Monday.
M: 21000
G: 59000
Please dont guess the numbers….
We all wil have chance to get h1b… still 8 hours r there …. lets hope for no lottery
General- 32500
Master- 11200
Don’t see much filling irrespective of panic created by US C I S.
First week filling will definitely increase compare to last year but its not gonna beyond 32000. All other news are rumors as they wanted to hit their page 🙂
What the heck man, some one days 50000 that also comes from Times of India
now you say 32000
Please dont post numbers which r not reliable
Gen: 55k
Masters: 19k
See this –
http://m.timesofindia.com/tech/tech-news/outsourcing/H-1B-visas-US-receives-50000-applications-on-first-day/articleshow/19394784.cms
H1B reached 50000 on is first day…is it true …?
http://www.greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id=45370&cat=10&scat=25
I am following the posts for few days and thanks to “God” who cleared the confusion of lottery system. I am among the ones who is feared of lottery system, hope it doesn’t happens.
“Times of India” which is a genuine source of information has posted that 50000 applications were received on Day-1 , April 1st 2013. How far this count can increase in rest 4 days? In other words is there a chance of exceeding 65000 in rest 4 days?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/outsourcing/H-1B-visas-US-receives-50000-applications-on-first-day/articleshow/19394784.cms
PRAYER for it should not be a LOTTERY FY 2014.
Write your prayer here , any Bhagvan , God, Ishwar ,Allah , Sadhu , Sant etc etc etc etc etc
you believe ,
PLEASE PRAY , bcoz i have heard that the PRAYER is the Most powerful wepon when all other wepon dosent work .
Ohh God , please make my and everyone’s way simple that they get H1B easily .
You are a Bunch of idiots!
So True…and these guys are troubling god !!!
Ha ha ha, NoGOD_You are on your own 🙂
Ankita, if your pray is listened, GOD has to forbid people filing H1B because if they file, your chances will be less. So you want only
Question from GOD: Why are you people so selfish and mean??
http://www.greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id=45370&cat=10&scat=25
Today’s payroll shows they lesser jobs added in March, people thought US economy is improving and wanted to work in US.
“Weak job gains cast shadow on U.S. economic outlook”.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/steady-job-gains-seen-bolstering-040319810.html;_ylt=AlB.s4Y.fR9mmiprUO2gZ8qiuYdG;_ylu=X3oDMTN1YzJxajhjBG1pdANGaW5hbmNlIEZQIE1lZ2F0cm9uIDIEcGtnAzg0ZTRkYzJiLWJiNjctMzViMC05NzdkLTBlNWIyZjA1NDE5NQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzE4Mzc2MjAwLTlkZjQtMTFlMi1iZmZlLTgzZWQwODQxYWRjZg–;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3
What you will do with H1B 🙂
Are you people serious?? How desperate are you?? Stop bringing your religious beliefs here! And if you were a true believer, you wouldn’t have bothered God with your petty little requests. Some of us are actually trying to use this forum to get useful information and not listen to your “prayers”. Pathetic…
all thing in this world is by god. if u dnt believe. then its not ur fault. its ur parent’s fault. may be the fault of ur environment of childhood . u r that guys who dsnt believe in prayer.
what will it do?
– god will allow only those needy people to be selected for H1B. AND rest guys will be settled some where at better place by GOD.
– SO ALL SYSTEM BECOME STABLE.
-THUS PRAYER WORKS.
-GOT IT?
If we read this transcript from USCIS carefully..
“Based on feedback from a number of stakeholders, USCIS anticipates that it may receive more petitions than the H-1B cap between April 1, 2013 and April 5, 2013. USCIS will monitor the number of petitions received and notify the public of the date on which the numerical limit of the H-1B cap has been met. This date is known as the final receipt date. If USCIS receives more petitions than it can accept, USCIS will use a lottery system to randomly select the number of petitions required to reach the numerical limit.”
So, that means if the 65k quota would have been reached by now, USCIS would have announced.It is no where mentioned that USCIS will wait until April5 to see the quota is exceeded or not.. If the quota exceeds on 2April, then that date would be the final receipt date and no more petitions are accepted after that.
See, the logic works as below.. Considering only 65 quota for calculation purposes
Example:
End of business – 1Apr – 60k petitions received .. so at the end of April1, the quota is not full – so USCIS will not announce anything
End of Business – 2Apr – 20k new petitions received – so the total now is 80k – NOW USICS will announce that the quota is full on 2ndApril and will not accept any new ones coming in from 3rd April. The “Final Receipt Date” is 2nd April
Now, it will hold a lottery to decide 65k from the 80k received in the first 2 days..
Thats how this whole system works.
The 5 business days logic has came in all this discussion because USCIS expects that the cap will be met in 5 business days, not that it will wait until 5 BDs to count the packages received. The only change is that since the quota is expected to be full by April5, premium processing will start from 15Apr – this is just to make time for the data entry of all the premium petitions and start work on taking action on them
Read the statement from USCIS carefully and you will understand everything. CRYSTAL CLEAR.
what if
April 1: 30,000
April2: 40,000
April3: 45,000
April 4: 55,000
April 5: 60,000
April 6: 63,000
April 7: 64,000
April 8: 66,000
Then Which will be the Date of receipt ? and will it be a lottery? then which date will be the date of lottery ?
Ankita,
Are you in-line for H1 this year? As you can see above, and co-relate with my example, the final receipt date will be 2nd April.. and no more petitions will be accepted from April3.. so, the lottery will be conducted (whenever – that’s not made clear by USCIS) on the 70,000 petitions it has received in the first 2 days and they will select 65,000 out of those 70,000
in 2007 for the 2008 cap they took applications till april 3rd (means april 3rd still went into lottery (even the cap was full in april 2nd). This year even if the cap is full in 1st day it self, all applications till april 5 will go into lottery. I dont think the cap will reach that fast as the number of LCA that the gov gave till March 18 were around 55 000, so base on that as well…many people still pending to file due to the LCA, so the only people that filed is the ones that have months in advance planning to file.
Where did you found the information of LCA count?
I think if the 65K mark is not breached before April 5 then they will go for order of filling instead of lottery.
Based on feedback from a number of stakeholders, USCIS anticipates that it may receive more petitions than the H-1B cap between April 1, 2013 and April 5, 2013. USCIS will monitor the number of petitions received and notify the public of the date on which the numerical limit of the H-1B cap has been met. This date is known as the final receipt date. If USCIS receives more petitions than it can accept, USCIS will use a lottery system to randomly select the number of petitions required to reach the numerical limit.
This is giving clear picture that they will not take all the pettions between april 1st and april 5th rather they monitor and if it is going to reach they will publish the count .On the day the reach the count they will go for lottory
^^^ this. To everyone posting that the cap has been reached. Open your eyes! USCIS would release an update if your numbers were true.
I 100% agree with GOD.
even though there are confusing discussion but GOD is cleard the air..
so till now the quota is not yet reached…If the statement of USISCS is correct.if it was reached it would have been anounced ealriest but not yet.
all please realax and wait..till monday.
@GOD
Nice & good analysis and it is acceptable.
It might be crystal clear; but to you only. Here are some catches:
(1) There is a RULE. USCIS must consider all applications received in the first week (april 1-april 5).
(2) There will be invalid petitions. They are not counted for cap limit. Without know how many valid applications are there how USCIS will know when to stop? So, even for lottery, USCIS ensures that there will be at least 65K valid applications among the received ones. So for lottery, it has to be way beyond a threshold that USCIS thinks enough to find valid petitions. 65K is the new visa limit; not a trigger for lottery or cap ending date.
Someone
can you point out where is the RULE mentioned by USICS ur talking about ?
Here it is – If the final receipt date is any of the first five business days on which petitions subject to the applicable numerical limit may be received (i.e., if the numerical limit is reached on any one of the first five business days that filings can be made), USCIS will randomly apply all of the numbers among the petitions received on any of those five business days, conducting the random selection among the petitions subject to the exemption under section 214(g)(5)(C) of the Act first. (Revised 3/24/08; 73 FR 15389 ) (Revised 5/5/05; 70 FR 23775 )
Source: http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-11261/0-0-0-17197/0-0-0-18547.html
RULE?? Where is it? Can you please enlighten us?
God,
If anyone has made some sense in last 5 days then it’s you. I agree to what you say. But one dot that I am not able to connect is this- Consider the following situation:
Apr 1- 20k
Apr 2-10k
Apr 3-10k
Apr 4-5k
Apr 5- 5k
Apr8-5k
Apr9-5k
Apr10-10k
So according you the receipt date would be Apr 10 and then also everything would go in lottery. USCIS will let the public know on late evening Apr 10 then cap is full. One thing which is not clear is how many day’s of applications would be considered for making a lottery decision. I hope you understand my question.
Thanks for your explanation. It’s pretty good and rational.
Man, I know.. that’s a grey area that I couldn’t find solid explanation elsewhere.
For now, lets hope that April5 is the deadline where lottery decision is made..
If by the end of business on April5, if less than 65k petitions received, then everyone until that date will get to review process. After that date, its first come first serve until the cap is reached.
One more thing, the general sentiment is that irrespective of cap full or not, USCIS will make a statement on Monday.. that will tell us the status of the count and other stuff
More stuff – Was just reading the USCIS update on 9April2012..
This means, for example, as of 30April, 64,000 petitions were received and on 1st May, 1500 petitions are received, then 1st May will be the final receipt date – and the lucky 1000 will be selected out of those 1500 on the last day to make the cap full. The 64000 folks submitted by 30April are green.
“If necessary, USCIS may randomly select the number of petitions received on the final receipt date that will be considered for final inclusion within the cap. The agency will reject petitions subject to the cap that are not selected, as well as those received after the final receipt date.”
God, agreed!
Your analysis makes a lot of sense. I dont really know who started brainwashing everyone else witht the 5 day rule and all other fake estimates.
Theres are a lot of gossips going in this forum as well as media but nothing realistic.
The thruth is that USCIS had mention that it will let us know the day the cap is reached.
To be honest I believe that this process will last a little while. It is not that simple to find a sponsor, file an application, pay the fees, pass the other legal barries and overall this nightmare can take over a few months of preparation.
Best of luck to everybody. Lets keep the hope that we wont have to be selected randomly!
Cheers! it is a happry friday after all 🙂
Thanks God.. Let’s hope for the best.
@God.
When you say “For now, lets hope that April 5th is the deadline where lottery decision is made..”,
It is not a hope it is a rule. If but End of day today April 5th, USCIS don’t release that the cap was reached, that logically means that there will not be LOTTERY. According to the 5 business days implemented by the H1-B cap provision.
Don’t misleading others please…
ALL petitions received between April 1 and April 5, 2013 must be included in the lottery. According to USCIS regulation: 8 CFR §214.2(h)(8)(ii)(B):
“If the final receipt date is any of the first five business days on which petitions subject to the applicable numerical limit may be received (i.e., if the numerical limit is reached on any one of the first five business days that filings can be made), USCIS will randomly apply all of the numbers among the petitions received on any of those five business days, conducting the random selection among the petitions subject to the exemption under section 214(g)(5)(C) of the Act first.”
So an H1B petition received on April 1 2013 has the same chance of getting selected in the lottery as the one received on April 5, 2013.
Good find
Guys One thing is clear that
They will do lottry if they reach cap within 5 business days and they will take all the
petions for lettory for first 5 business days..so fingurs crossed.
and also they will anounce the the cap is reached as soon as they reach wether it is first or or fifth.. 3 more hours left from now…
so be pesimistic that the cap is not yet reached…
(B) When calculating the numerical limitations or the number of exemptions under section 214(g)(5)(C) of the Act for a given fiscal year, USCIS will make numbers available to petitions in the order in which the petitions are filed. USCIS will make projections of the number of petitions necessary to achieve the numerical limit of approvals, taking into account historical data related to approvals, denials, revocations, and other relevant factors. USCIS will monitor the number of petitions (including the number of beneficiaries requested when necessary) received and will notify the public of the date that USCIS has received the necessary number of petitions (the “final receipt date”). The day the news is published will not control the final receipt date. When necessary to ensure the fair and orderly allocation of numbers in a particular classification subject to a numerical limitation or the exemption under section 214(g)(5)(C) of the Act, USCIS may randomly select from among the petitions received on the final receipt date the remaining number of petitions deemed necessary to generate the numerical limit of approvals. This random selection will be made via computer-generated selection as validated by the Office of Immigration Statistics. Petitions subject to a numerical limitation not randomly selected or that were received after the final receipt date will be rejected. Petitions filed on behalf of aliens otherwise eligible for the exemption under section 214(g)(5)(C) of the Act not randomly selected or that were received after the final receipt date will be rejected if the numerical limitation under 214(g)(1) of the Act has been reached for that fiscal year. Petitions indicating that they are exempt from the numerical limitation but that are determined by USCIS after the final receipt date to be subject to the numerical limit will be denied and filing fees will not be returned or refunded. If the final receipt date is any of the first five business days on which petitions subject to the applicable numerical limit may be received (i.e., if the numerical limit is reached on any one of the first five business days that filings can be made), USCIS will randomly apply all of the numbers among the petitions received on any of those five business days, conducting the random selection among the petitions subject to the exemption under section 214(g)(5)(C) of the Act first.
I think USCIS will treat April 1st to April 5th as day one.
One more news article similar to Computerworld, but this one mentions the source as “According to an estimate provided by FCi Federal, a Virginia-based government services and technology provider, which is supplying personnel to assist the USCIS in processing the H-1B petitions, on the first day it received some 50,000 packages,”.
Don’t know how reliable it is.
http://www.rediff.com/business/report/us-gets-50000-h-1b-petitions-packages-on-1st-day/20130405.htm
Guys,
Relax. There will not be a lottery. My sixth sense has never failed me. If the cap was reached early, they would have announced something (it seems like that is what USCIS wants to happen) :))
It will be too good, if we hear no lottery from USCIS
Mathias,
Do you have any reference that in past USCIS have declared about lottery between 1st to 5th Apr ever ?
I think they have never updated about Cap between 1st and 5th Apr even in lottery years 2006,7,8
In 2007 USCIS announced H1b results on April 3rd. Check the below link.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/H1BFY08Cap040307.pdf
How are you sure in this?
Latest update given by my law firm:
General cap: ~105,000
Master’s cap: ~27,0000
Not everyone will make it to the States this year!
This is taken from a post given in this forum
can u temme which law firm ?
If we read this transcript from USCIS carefully..
“Based on feedback from a number of stakeholders, USCIS anticipates that it may receive more petitions than the H-1B cap between April 1, 2013 and April 5, 2013. USCIS will monitor the number of petitions received and notify the public of the date on which the numerical limit of the H-1B cap has been met. This date is known as the final receipt date. If USCIS receives more petitions than it can accept, USCIS will use a lottery system to randomly select the number of petitions required to reach the numerical limit.”
So, that means if the 65k quota would have been reached by now, USCIS would have announced.It is no where mentioned that USCIS will wait until April5 to see the quota is exceeded or not.. If the quota exceeds on 2April, then that date would be the final receipt date and no more petitions are accepted after that.
See, the logic works as below.. Considering only 65 quota for calculation purposes
Example:
End of business – 1Apr – 60k petitions received .. so at the end of April1, the quota is not full – so USCIS will not announce anything
End of Business – 2Apr – 20k new petitions received – so the total now is 80k – NOW USICS will announce that the quota is full on 2ndApril and will not accept any new ones coming in from 3rd April. The “Final Receipt Date” is 2nd April
Now, it will hold a lottery to decide 65k from the 80k received in the first 2 days..
Thats how this whole system works.
The 5 business days logic has came in all this discussion because USCIS expects that the cap will be met in 5 business days, not that it will wait until 5 BDs to count the packages received. The only change is that since the quota is expected to be full by April5, premium processing will start from 15Apr – this is just to make time for the data entry of all the premium petitions and start work on taking action on them
Read the statement from USCIS carefully and you will understand everything. CRYSTAL CLEAR.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f537eff29cb6d310VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=68439c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD
Hey Bob, i got a real update.
Here are the counts –
Regular – 1000
Masters – 500
No lottery for the next 10 years!
If you can not make usable comment, please don’t make Jokes here. Few people are seriously watching this page.
USCIS should have kept quiet.
http://discuss.ilw.com/content.php?1623-Apr-4-H1B-Cap-Update
Y does USCIS keep the centres in remote locations. St. Albans vermont? come on keep it in NYC or Boston so that the courier guy can get there easily.
Even if BoB’s info was true (which I highly doubt), it would mean lottery for everyone: 63,981 + 1,436 (the Master’s candidates rejected will enter the regular lottery) sums up to 65,417. If he doesn’t know this, he certainly doesn’t have reliable sources.
Bob/S/P/Bund/whoever the fuck you are- Have you fucking lost it! You can’t get any numbers, because USCIS employees would be fired for this. Also, if you used a little common sense before posting, you posted at 6:47 PM EST. It would have been 3:47 PM in California. The California center would not have counted the petitions till the end of the business day. Stupid mistakes made by stupid people.
Is it true this web site use the Central time?
Hey Bob
Can you post the source
so we can trust…
Lottery for Master” quota and have to wait 5th April’s package received for regular quota
Unofficial USCIS source( Source will be posted shortly)
Master’s 21436
Regular 63981
Good Luck for every one
Thanks
Bob
WOOOOWWWW!!
extremely randomized numbers….thank you BoB….awaiting your source
Bullshit. Stop spreading senseless rumors without having any facts to support your talk with.
If master’s go above the quote they automatically going to adjust it to regular quote. So technically no lottery for any one because they received less then 85,000 application
Bob-WTF, get a life man.
That’s not true. USCIS need to give the equal chance to all the masters applicant through a LOTTERY. so the reminder 1,436 that will not be selected will be automatically add to regular cap.
Note that the Maters petitions are handled first before the regular
If the numbers were legitimate.Why should the source be posted later and why not now?.
Dude WTF! Have you fucking lost it! You can’t get any numbers, because USCIS employees would be fired for this. Also, if you used a little common sense before posting, you posted at 6:47 PM EST. It would have been 3:47 PM in California. The California center would not have counted the petitions till the end of the business day. Stupid mistakes made by stupid people.
I don’t know about Bob’s Source how reliable it is?
Still USCIS is receiving Application tomorrow so we have to wait
Bob/S/P/Bund/whoever the fuck you are- Have you fucking lost it! You can’t get any numbers, because USCIS employees would be fired for this. Also, if you used a little common sense before posting, you posted at 6:47 PM EST. It would have been 3:47 PM in California. The California center would not have counted the petitions till the end of the business day. Stupid mistakes made by stupid people.
I’ve created a quick app for counting. Hit my name to enroll in H1B counter. Lets do predictions
Why would someone post multiple links of the computerworld article. It is the same person spreading rumors. I pity you dude. I might have done something like this when I was 10, not when you grow up.
Links of computerworld? Dude do you even know to use a computer. Check the URL and ‘whois’ info. It is a real app to do the counting.
Unless computerworld has already added my app to their site, which is highly unlikely bcoz of the volume of applicants registered, you might have to check your eyes and brain.
Check out this article – http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/public-sector/3438773/us-gets-flood-of-h-1b-petitions-on-first-day/.
It seems 50,000 packages were delivered to USCIS on the first day (not sure if they are referring to April 1st or April 2nd).
This is still a speculation and still unofficial. It is the only news article relating to the matter and I makes me question its legitimacy, also I would bank on this being someone basing false information inorder to get more hits and views on their website.
Any idea/speculation on how many petitions are made for advanced cap ?
@S …dude…firstly, the USCIS employees who process/approve/deny the H1b petitions are called Applications Adjudicators…each Applications Adjudicator has to pass the AAE exam with a minimum score of 92 (of 125) to qualify for an interview at USCIS location…and after pacing through the interview, a 19 days training is mandatory for every selected Applications Adjudicator…only after all these successful steps, will an individual be allowed to approve/deny petitions (any) at USCIS….(google it..you will find all this instantly)
Next, the ComputerWorld link that you sent mentions that USCIS has contracted temporary workforce from (some) company to handle the big load of H1b petitions…so lets say USCIS hired 100 extra individuals…so interviewing, and 3 weeks of training, and hunting for individuals who passed the AAE exam (IMO) definitely takes 2 months (minimum)…in sense, USCIS must have started it’s talent hunt from early Jan (with reference to March 15th posting)….
IMO…everything doesn’t add up…
Yeah, I believe your stupid naive article. The article was published today and the info they have is for 1st April. If they had such a strong belief why on earth would they not release their figures on the 1st itself and wait till the 4th. They could have done it on the 2nd if not late on the 1st! False articles.
Syntel has 55000 lca filings while their employee base is only 21000.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238009/H_1B_demand_this_year_will_be_fast_furious
Makes me wonder if the companies by doing this are forcing a lottery. They file applications on behalf almost all their employees and then see their luck and assign the lucky ones to clients.
We want america at work.
To eliminate visa shortage. The client and the consulting company must have a contract where in the financial negotiations clause the client must agree and bear the visa sponsoring expenses in return for the services provided by the high skilled worker. The consulting firm then serves just as a staffing/training agency.The client must also be a pro american employer i.e the client company must have all the employees in the US and be US citizens and the contractors they bring in from these consulting companies be sponsored by the clients for however long the contract exists. These contractors as per DOL regulation will be given full benefits and treated as a full time employees however they work until the contract exists. Visas should then be issued for the timeline specific to the contract.
This way only those who need the visa will get a fair chance at the process.
Keep america at work. Reading this forum i have understood the ground situation of how this H-1B visa system really works.
If consulting firms acted just as staffing agencies and the clients actually paid for visa sponsorship all of this scam would end right there. Also we would have an actual count of the contractors for these US companies.
Given by unofficial Fedex count to Vermont service center on Monday, 65k was reached on 1st day (including all service centers). and google trends numbers the volume looks all peak.
If I were to guess with help of my Crystal ball, by end of tomorrow USCIS would have received 65-75K applications for General cap and 20-28K for Masters cap. But no need to panic, think of it as a rush; which only means everyone that applied in 3 months last year, applied in less than 1-week this time. But doesn’t mean you have reduced # of visa’s. 85,000 is still a huge number. So, majority of people that applied in first week should get through. Largely early birds (and few lucky ones) should see positive outcome. Few unlucky ones won’t make it thru the lottery. As usual, the ones that didnt make it, have to go for little soul searching; and find a way to spend the next 1 year in a productive manner. Be it beer, travelling, sports whatever be it.
Kumar-Without having any any proof at all, please stop speculating and bullshitting here. I am not being rude, but come on, without an inkling of the numbers are, you should not be making these comments. USCIS will release numbers whenever they want to, probably early next week and AILA will come up with an estimate tomorrow late evening EST. Unofficial FedEx count was more than 65 K, you say, now, even if you use a little bit of common sense, there is UPS and USPS who also handle deliveries and you have not accounted for that. Stop spreading rumors without having a weblink or some concrete reference to fall back onto.
Raghu,
I said it clearly i was using my crystal balls. Dont make shove that up your ass!
Kumar- One question??
How would USPS\FEDEX\UPS differentiate between Masters and Regular packets?
Have you guys checked out this article ?
http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/public-sector/3438773/us-gets-flood-of-h-1b-petitions-on-first-day/.
It seems like close to 50,000 packages were received on Day 1.
Bob/S/P/Bund/whoever the fuck you are- Have you fucking lost it! You can’t get any numbers, because USCIS employees would be fired for this. Also, if you used a little common sense before posting, you posted at 6:47 PM EST. It would have been 3:47 PM in California. The California center would not have counted the petitions till the end of the business day. Stupid mistakes made by stupid people.
Hi,
I have a doubt about this H1b processing this year.
Does the USCIS clearly said it will wait for the first one week to decide whether it is going to be a lottery
OR
USCIS keep tracking the number of applications that are receiving everyday and conduct a lottery for the day when the quota exeeced?
Please reply
Meera,
check this out http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f537eff29cb6d310VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=68439c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238127/U.S._gets_flood_of_H_1B_petitions_on_first_day
See the above link. 50,000 applications on the first day itself
I applied for LCA on Mar 28th. What is the probability for me to file my H1B 2014? Is any one who applied for LCA by Mar 2013 and get the approval?
Mine was applied on 26 Mar and i got it on April 1…If all the paper and document of employer is correct and if attorney is good it should be ready by tomorrow… As 29 was holiday..If its minimum five days as my case it should be ready for u tomorrow. And ask the attorney to file your H1B before tomorrow EOD
My LCA was denied for 6 times. My attorney was working for a month on it. The last (7th) application was submitted on Mar 27th and accepted on 3rd of April. They were really strict on some language aspects on it because there was no problems with prevailing wage or something like this. Just happens sometimes. Got lucky this time.
Thanks for the update.
mine was applied on 21 march…it got approved on 28 march (1 week). And attorney’s sent my application on 29th.
1st day, 50000 package
http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/public-sector/3438773/us-gets-flood-of-h-1b-petitions-on-first-day/?olo=rss
Should have a system where legit h1b applicants can enroll. Hoping the candidates will do that, we can approximately guess the current count then n there.
USCIS received 50,000 applications on day1.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238127/U.S._gets_flood_of_H_1B_petitions_on_first_day?source=rss_keyword_edpicks
I got question. Does it mean if the petition was received by USCIS on 1st Apr, I don’t need to entr the lottery because the lottery is for the final day and its following day?
If cap reached within first 5 days, everyone is in lottery regardless you filed it on 1st or 5th.
But in 2008 they only lottery 2 and 3 April?
OK I might be wrong. It seems to have been changed in 2009. The only thing to do is wait…Sigh…
yes, this time USCIS has decided 5th April as the date to consider. All petitions reaching till 5th april and if less than 65k will be accepted, else there would be lottery if more than 65k.
How much will be attorney fee in general?
From USD 1k the cheapest. Most of them have a fee between USD 3k and USD 5k. Good Luck
1000 dollars is ok, max 1200 to 1400
Joey Barton,
My bad.. I mean the H1B cap for Masters quota hasn’t been reached yet.. How do you know that?
I dont know for certain, but would they have announced it once it fills up?
I think the official announcements will be out on 8th. May be tomorrow we will hear from the Lawyers association that makes unofficial updates. Let’s wait for that.. good luck..
Hey Joey Barton,
How do you that the H1B cap hasn’t been reached yet?
I will pray that threr won’t be any lottery condition and all applicants will get good news by tomorrow.
-Bill
The fact that H1B master cap has not yet been reach, can that be seen as a positive signal for us applying for Reg H1B? My application is not done until monday/tuesday next week.
Realistically, you should be fine even if you apply next week. Although the earlier the better. USCIS wont release an update of numbers till next week so make sure you get your LCA and application rolling.
According to the USCIS website: “USCIS will monitor the number of petitions received and notify the public of the date on which the numerical limit of the H-1B cap has been met. This date is known as the final receipt date.”
Does this mean that they will notify as soon as the Cap is met? So, does this mean that as of Thursday the cap is still not met?
I heard that in 2008 USCIS announced that the cap was met on April 2nd.
So if cap reaches on thursday they will let you know on other day, not the same day. Consider worst scenario, if cap reaches on Friday, they will let you know on Monday and again on monday they have to let you know anyways. So lets keep the fingers crossed.
Just curious to know about lottery. Putting together few facts:
a) USCIS will accept regular & premium processing petitions from April 1 to 5th. If cap exceeded within these days, then it will go for lottery.
b) Premium processing will start from April 15.
c) Premium processing($1,225 extra) will no way influence in getting the H1B visa. But, it will increase the response time from USCIS weather the visa is approved or not.
Considering purely from a business point view for USCIS, won’t they earn more, if the lottery process selects more of premium processing petitions. They get more money for the same 65,000 cap limit. Just wanted to know your view.
USCIS is non-profit entity. Its a government organization funded by US govt. It does charge the filing fees to manage its own administrative costs. But not a profit entity.
You get your money back if you are not selected in lottery, but not attonrey fees.
I think most of people this time will upgrade to premium only after their application is accepted..No point in applying for premium even when you don’t know if your application is accepted or not..thats a smart move to process premium processing from 15th.. till then everyone will know if they’ll get a visa or not 🙂
hi,
did any one received a confirmation receipt from USCIS that your application received ?
plz reply
They will start sending the confirmation receipt at 14th of april
what is the update’s ?
Hi All
I am really confused with all this comments here on H 1 B . USCIS did not told anything about the lottery system . Before filing the petitions . LCA count should have already known how much has been filed base on that USCIS cant decide ? this is 4th day now today . I have got job in USA a few months ago . my employer is doing all . I am so upset with all the stupid comments on lottery .I have spent a lot of time 3 days from april 1st 2013 with earlier website of redbus they have the same predictions of lottery . see the following site . WILL BE THIS IS ???????? same as earlier ? 2010 2011 2012 ?
http://redbus2us.com/h1b-visa-2011-lottery-prediction-graph-with-2010-quota-data-analysis/
http://redbus2us.com/news-h1b-visa-2012-visa-lottery-electronically-before-filing-petition/
we gotta wait update from uscis , please don’t confuse all of us here , peoples badly looking for their life change and expecting the Visa
Sanjeev, please read the post below.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f537eff29cb6d310VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2dd6d26d17df110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD
WASHINGTON—U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) announced today that it will begin accepting H-1B petitions subject to the Fiscal Year (FY) 2014 cap on Monday, April 1, 2013. Cases will be considered accepted on the date that USCIS receives a properly filed petition for which the correct fee has been submitted; not the date that the petition is postmarked.
The cap (the numerical limitation on H-1B petitions) for FY 2014 is 65,000. In addition, the first 20,000 H-1B petitions filed on behalf of individuals with U.S. master’s degree or higher are exempt from the fiscal year cap of 65,000.
Based on feedback from a number of stakeholders, USCIS anticipates that it may receive more petitions than the H-1B cap between April 1, 2013 and April 5, 2013. USCIS will monitor the number of petitions received and notify the public of the date on which the numerical limit of the H-1B cap has been met. This date is known as the final receipt date. If USCIS receives more petitions than it can accept, USCIS will use a lottery system to randomly select the number of petitions required to reach the numerical limit. USCIS will reject petitions that are subject to the cap and are not selected, as well as petitions received after it has the necessary number of petitions needed to meet the cap. The lottery for the H-1B cap was last used in April 2008.
In addition, H-1B cap cases can continue to request premium processing concurrently. Due to the historic premium processing receipt levels, combined with the possibility that the H-1B cap will be met in the first 5 business days of the filing season, USCIS has temporarily adjusted its current premium processing practice. To facilitate the prioritized data entry of cap-subject petitions requesting premium processing, USCIS will begin premium processing for H-1B cap cases on April 15, 2013. For more information on premium processing for FY 2014 cap-subject petitions, please see the USCIS Alert .
H-1B petitioners should follow all statutory and regulatory requirements as they prepare petitions, in order to avoid delays in processing and possible requests for evidence. USCIS has developed detailed information, including an optional checklist to assist in the completion and submission of a FY2014 H-1B petition. The processing worksheet is available on the USCIS website,www.uscis.gov.
PS: You actually are confusing others here 🙂 no offence.
My LCA for H1 B visa was filed on 13 th Mar, 2013. Can any one please tell me what is the probability that my H1B petition will be files this year??
1) H1 do not depend on when your LCA is applied.
2) If your application is send on April 1st as per uscis they will declare how many applications are received on this Friday or most probably on Monday.
3) In case they receive more than 65000 applications then they will announce it would be a lottery. Means a computer will pick random names and select the applicant.
4) In case if the application count is less than 65000 then your application will be 100% accepted.
5) Even I am waiting for the announcement. We should pray it should not be a lottery.