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Why NOT to break Law in US. Deportation? Jail ? GC, Citizenship issues?

Why-NOT-to-break-law-in-US-Deportation-GC-issues-for-Internationals

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by Guest Author Rakesh

The article is based on Rakesh’s observations after living in US for 14 years.  His goal in this article is to caution fellow internationals to live safely and enjoy stay in US  without getting  into any legal issues. Thank you Rakesh !   ( If you have an experience to share or write, email me )

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Here are few things that in my opinion are very important and every non-immigrant and even green card holders must keep in their mind .

If you are NON immigrant ( F1, H1, L1 , B1 etc )  or Green Card holder

Make sure to “Never”  Never ” Never “ get arrested  for breaking any law in US. A non-immigrant arrested  for committing crimes and  breaking local laws can be subject to deportation.   Local law enforcement agencies in most states are now getting trained by ICE   under some law passed in 2004 by Bush admin.

Some common reasons — Non immigrants and legal immigrants  have been arrested and deported

1)  Stalking , sex , exchanging adult graphic pictures &  soliciting sexual favor from an minor over internet chat   ( usually cop poses as minor ) .   NBC –catch a predator is a show where few Indians showed up thinking they were meeting minor girl at her house. They were arrested,  sent to prison and subsequently deported

2) Soliciting a prostitute

3)  Dealing with drugs.  Also buying and consuming illegal drugs like pot is a crime in most states

4)  Reckless driving thus causing accident and bodily injury to others ( If you injure or kill a child , you  might as well forget America  ).   Driving without valid license or failure to carry proof of insurance or proper car registration  ( in some states you get a ticket  while in some counties they can arrest you  depending on whim /mood of Cop ).    You can get arrested for driving over 100 mph on highways in state like GA ( it falls under reckless driving and putting others at risk )

5)   Lying  under Oath.    Putting   immigrant status  as  US  citizen (  this applies to  green card holders too ) when filling out any official form  or I-9  IRS form  or any federal Tax forms.    Claiming US citizenship when you are a Non-immigrant (or claiming immigrant benefits)   or GC holder, is a serious offense.   A big No No!!!!

6) Domestic abuse / violence and assaults.   Lewd behavior or sex with minors under 18 (there is zero tolerance for this type of crime.  Best thing is to avoid being friends with anybody under 18,  if they are not related to you  )

7) Failing to state obvious material FACTS in immigration forms   like marital status, number of kids,    employment history  , addresses , tax returns, arrest records  etc.

8)  Shop lifting and getting arrested

9) Unauthorized employment.

10)   Making serious criminal threats over internet.  They can track you down from your IP    or video camera recordings if you are using public computer in library or university.    Also you can be tracked if you are behind anonymous proxy server  as  IP will leave log trail. So don’t be complacent thinking that you can hide behind computers.

11)  DUI   (driving under influence of alcohol, prescription med , or illegal drugs )  will  “definitely” get you arrested  .  Don’t do it. Leave your car at bar or party place  and take a Cab home or request a ride from sober friend.

12)  Never get into physical fight (even with your good Indian friend or Desi roomies ) .  Never put your hand on anybody or make verbal threats.  If you are angry mad at somebody,   feel free to curse/vent at them. But don’t ever touch them.  Things can quickly escalate and somebody can get hurt or have bruises if you grab them during fight /argument. When cops get called, they will take you to jail to diffuse the situation!!!   So try to remember Mahatma Gandhi or God or your parents  when you get angry and feel that you are being insulted humiliated by others .     At the end of day  nobody has ever won an argument   :-)    Ability to forgive is a divine human quality.

13) Non-Immigrants are generally not allowed to fire or carry firearms ( guns ) under federal law, unless you have a hunting license and have full paperwork, and can be subject to arrest and deportation.   Be careful and do not carry any weapons illegally even for recreation. Read federal govt website :  Non-immigrant Firearms rules in US

Always  Remember that you are NON immigrant  . Apart from some basic civil rights ( like rental housing , access to public places, service to consumer etc ) and anti -discrimination rights  , You have very few  legal rights when compared to  united states citizens.  You are lawfully admitted ” Alien “   so  don’t  break any laws that will jeopardize your good standing “non -immigrant alien ” status .   Keep yourself informed and don’t fall through cracks .
Some of these things also applies to GC holders.   First thing they ask you in GC interview  is  ” Have you ever been arrested “     ?   Also GC holders can be denied Citizenship if they have arrest record or hide that fact in citizenship application or fail to file tax returns.

I have noticed over past 14 yeas that lots of students, H1Bs, Green card holders develop a carefree,  complacent attitude after living in US for some time.     American laws are very strict and there can be serious legal consequences for not following those laws.  “Ignorance of law is not an Excuse.” In post 9-11 world ,  level of tolerance has decreased and they are even less forgiving more than ever.

In short,  ..   Keep Your RECORD CLEAN.  stay AWAY FROM JAIL or Prison,  Follow the LAW.    America is a Nation of  LAW .

About Author : Rakesh has lived in US for 14 years and have seen so many things that internationals overlook and end up into complicated situations dealing with law.


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Suzy December 3, 2012 at 1:16 pm

Hi ,

In 2010 I attended a public school ( i was holding a visitor visa ) the school was aware of that and said its ok i can go to school even if im holding a. Visior visa , after every 5 months i came back to my motherland , so i stayed in the states legally and never stayed more than 6 months , and one time while i was coming back to my motherland i was wearing my litterman jacket at the airport , anyways after 3 months i went back to the states but they cancelled my visitor visa , now i applied for f-1 student visa to go to college and i got it , so now i have student visa , will this affect my re-entry to us ? I never lied about anything , i said the truth , is there anyway to know if im blacklisted ??

Thanks
Suzy

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will December 1, 2012 at 8:10 pm

hey, what happens if an f-1 visa holder commits a misdemeanor in the US such as possessing less than a gram of weed?

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James December 1, 2012 at 10:30 pm

In 2006 I sponsored this immigrant and signed an affidavit of support. At the time, I assumed her to be a legal immigrant with a student visa. Since that time, I have found that she did indeed come into this country with a F-1 visa but at no time attended any classes and, rather, stayed in this country for an additional three years illegally. But this is only where her criminal record begins.

In 2010, she applied for citizenship and was denied due to an arrest on February 20, 2006 for theft and another arrest for theft on May 18, 2009 (both in Kane County Illinois). Since that time, she has been arrested on three additional occasions; June 6, 2011, February 27, 2012, and most recently July 2, 2012 (all in Scott County Iowa). These arrests were also for theft charges.

In 2011, she completed a Federal Student Aid Form and received a Pell Grant and also student loans. On this application, she stated she had not received a degree prior to this filing. The fact is that she has both a Bachelor’s Degree and a Master’s Degree obtained from her home country’s university and authenticated as U.S. equivalents in 2007 at her own request. Since she already had, in fact, received these degrees, she was not eligible for the Pell Grant she received and by using this grant committed another act of fraud; this time at the federal level.

After obtaining these funds for education, she set up a business where she failed to provide payments to Social Security, the IRS and Iowa Department of Revenue on her earnings. As far as I know, she did pay Federal and State tax for 2011 when she filed in February 2012 but has not reported any earnings to the Social Security Administration.

Lastly, she has not, to my knowledge, submitted the required AR-11 form for a change of address despite moving three times since first receiving her green card.

In 2010, she was denied citizenship, and rightfully so, due to her criminal convictions. Since that time she has committed three additional crimes of theft. Despite her actions and criminal convictions of moral turpitude, Dolgorsuren has been permitted to re-enter the United States on three separate occasions in 2009, 2011 and 2011after 30 day trips to Mongolia with no attention to her inadmissibility under the immigration laws.

I have sent all evidence of each of these allegations to the authorities at USCIS, ICE, Attorney General’s office and numerous senators and congressmen. Yet nothing has been done and this immigrant is able to continue using her green card to defraud the American government and the American people.

And you’re worried about less than a gram of weed? Forget about it.

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Vijay June 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm

Hi Saurabh,

I am in USA from past 1 year on L1 visa, while filing L1 visa I have added fake details as married in my visa details and added fake wife’s name (hoping that I will get good girl soon from India and will get more expenses from my company), now in USA I got an american girl and she is ready to marry with me, now I’m in trouble because according to the documnet I am married but I can’t prove or say that I lied aerlier.

Please help me otherwise I will miss a chance of Green Card.

Thanks,
Vijay.

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James July 13, 2012 at 4:10 pm

You are the epitome of what is wrong with the US. We allow a low-life like you to come in to our country without checking on your lies. You then want to marry an American just to get a green card (you say, “she is ready to marry with me” as if its some kind of coercion). I wish I knew this girl. I would tell her to run as fast as she can from a self-admitted liar. But it doesn’t really matter because USCIS will catch up on your lies and deport your sorry a** anyway.

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IndiGuy July 14, 2012 at 3:02 pm

@Vijay,
How dare you do that? I just don’t understand for some petty bucks you added some unknown entity as your wife? You are big time $hit hole. You have 2 options, either you leave country or just remain unmarried. Shame on a scum bag like you.

I totally agree with “James”. You can get away with lies once or twice, but can escape all along your life.

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IndiGuy July 15, 2012 at 5:17 am

Correction. You can get away with lies once or twice, but “can’t” escape all along your life.

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Saurabh July 21, 2012 at 10:44 pm

Vijay,
I have no suggestions for you.

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sam May 16, 2012 at 6:53 pm

Sir i m green card holder .. and i am applying for citizenship.. i am convicted in misdimeanor charges.. i was trying to give money for sex.. last month ia was out of country when i came in USA again immigration officer asked me what happend why u been arrested itold him evrything i was so stupid and i will not do this again.. then he let me go…..now if i apply for citizenship thier is any possibilities they will deport me.. in airport they let me go thay said nothing and told me next time dont do this again…plzz telkl me what i need to do

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Dan April 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm

I got married to a US Citizen. I got the GC in 2007. In 2010 I filled for divorce but withdrew the application so I can try for the 3yrs N400 applications. I went in Jan. 2011 for my Citizenship interview in Hartford, CT. There I was asked if I have children and I said NO. The thing is I thought he asked if I had kids w the wife. Truth is I was at the time the proud dad of a 1 mo old with my present wife. So, after the interview I thought about my answer and the officer wanted some more proof and I decided to withdrew my application.

I divorced my ex in June 2011 and remarried in the next month to the mother of my baby girl who is Indian and went to same college I went. Now after 5 years of GC I decided to go back and applied for N400/Citizenship. The interview was Apr. 26th, 2012. The IO asked me all the questions very fast and we were done in less than 10 min. He said I should go in the waiting room and wait for my Oath Letter. I thought I made it, but it happens that after 45 min. wait I see the same Interview Officer coming in and asking me to follow him back in the interview room. I knew it s bad. I knew it s about my baby. He said that since I was asked in my previous application about children and i said no it is a lie to the federal agent bla blka bla…I said that I thought they meant if I had any children w my ex wife which I didn’t. He made me sign a paper saying that I answered incorectly to a question on my previous interview.

I am hoping I will not be deported and just be given a 5 year probation. What are my chances for that? Again the 1st application didn’t have any mention of my baby since she wasn’t borned at the time but in the interview she was 1 month old and I said NO about having a baby. I withdrew my application and on my second application I did mention the baby.

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Saurabh April 29, 2012 at 1:47 am

Dan,
You should consult an attorney.

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rakesh May 1, 2012 at 2:05 am

you could’ve said that you weren’t sure baby was yours

Consult Immigration Attorney ASAP !!!!!!!

You can claim hardship waiver to family , us born child etc. At the worst, your citizenship application is denied but they didn’t cancel your GC . So you are good for now
Cheers

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rakesh May 1, 2012 at 2:28 am

you could’ve said that you weren’t sure baby was yours ( since she was born out of wedlock ) and didn’t felt like acknowledging it . {{ wink }}

Technically, I think you can get away with this . Hire a shrewd ” white ” lawyer and stay away from deshis

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Sue April 17, 2012 at 11:17 pm

Hi Saurabh,

I have read quite a few of your articles and all of them have been really useful. I am hoping you will be able to offer me some advice with regard to my situation. I am currently on a F2 visa status which expires in June this year. My husband just got his h1b approved and my h4 has been approved as well for starting on october 1st. We have also asked for our university to extend our f1/f2 during this period and the university has agreed to give us new i20s’ very soon. In the mean time, there is a company willing to offer me employment with H1b sponsorship. Now, my question is can I do a F2 to H1b transfer within Us with a H4 approval already from the USCiS. If I did that, can I continue to stay in the US till october until my h1 status begins. ANd if so, will my i20 be extended after june?

Thank you very much
Best,
Su

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Saurabh April 18, 2012 at 4:02 pm

Sue,
You both had H-1/4 filed from F-1/2 along w/ COS, which makes you eligible for cap-gap. This allows you to continue staying in US until Oct 1. So you are all set to remain in US. Let your school know that you will be in cap-gap and they will update your SEVIS record accordingly.

As for your H-1, this is my suggestion. Have the employer file H-1 for you w/ start date of Oct 8 (1 week after H-4 goes into effect). This way you can continue to stay in US on F-2 until Sep 30th, then be on H-4 for 1 week and finally on H-1.

I mentioned a gap of 1 week on H-4, so that you still remain eligible for cap-gap. Talk to an attorney about this, and if they think that 1 week period on H-4 is not required and doesn’t impact cap-gap, then H-1 can be filed w/ start date of Oct 1.

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Dan April 17, 2012 at 10:51 pm

I have a felony 1 drug possesion which was dismissed by the DA but I was given a 30 day parole until my charges were dismissed or a decision was taken. Does anyone know if my permanent resident card will b denied.

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rakesh May 1, 2012 at 2:08 am

Drug related offense are taken seriously by uscis.
During GC interview , they would mention this issue.

Consult a lawyer

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Mrinal Pathak March 28, 2012 at 12:37 pm

Hi,

I got charges against hit-n-run and driving with an expired driver’s permit (not a license).. I just want to know if this would be subjected to deportation by any chance?

I am on a F1 Student Visa, been just 6 months in California…

The car I hit got some damage but no hurt to any humane…

PLEASE suggest me! I am given a case no and suppose to appear in court as and when my turn comes… thanx

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rakesh May 1, 2012 at 2:10 am

you should be ok . Don’t mention your citizenship status to judge or any authorities.
Tell Judge that you thought you hit a light pole or make some vague excuse if you can

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Mohit February 9, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Talking of laws in US, do any of you know if as a H1B visa holder I can buy property (foreclosure) and then potentially sell it for a profit?
Also if i can buy such properties and then use them for rental income?

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rakesh May 1, 2012 at 2:12 am

Different counties and states have different laws

Mohit go ahead and do it . You’ll be allright

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uscitizen June 27, 2012 at 2:40 pm

You steal a citizen’s job and now you want to make a profit off of his foreclosed property! Go back home and stop stealing…

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Rakesh December 20, 2011 at 11:54 am

On a lighter note::
I visited india few years ago “after” 10 years in united states “and” after getting my GC.
Never take chances :-)
take my advice and ” DON’T GO ” !!!!! Enjoy yr remaning 3 years in united states. ( GC is a loooonnng shot these days )

p.s I knew somebody who went to india , while on h1, to attend grandmother’s funeral and was denied entry .

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Andy December 12, 2011 at 3:48 pm

Hi,

Nice article. I am on H1b visa right now. This is my 2nd H1b visa. I came to US on F1(student). I never went out of US on my 1st H1b. Now I have 2nd term approval of H1b for 3yrs. I was arrested for drug possession during my 1st h1b. I didnot had to plea as there was no evidence of me committing the crime but as it was a felony charge prosecutor gave me PTI for 1 year which i finished successfully. All charges were dropped after that and case got dismissed.

Now the question is, I am planning to go to india next month and have to go for visa stamping, What are my chances of visa rejection in this case ? will the dismissed felony case with arrest record affect my visa approval ?

I am very much worried and don’t know what to do.
Your advise is highly appreciated.

thanks.

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Saurabh December 12, 2011 at 9:37 pm

You should remain truthful on the DS form. I don’t think it will adversely effect your stamping as your charges were eventually dropped. However, it would be nice to talk to an attorney as well.

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Rakesh December 20, 2011 at 11:20 am

Andy
Even the charges were dropped, you might wanna talk to an lawyer ( Rembr though lawyer is not a God and USCIS has broad powers )
America takes drug charges very seriously. Since you are non -immigrant , they can deny your entry on this. I’d say don’t go to india but its your choice !!! You are taking a chance here !!!

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Rakesh September 29, 2010 at 8:57 am

I am the original author of this article.
I don’t think it will affect yr re-entry to usa

But when you apply for greencard ( in case in future ) , you are required to mention that in yr bio form. Also immigration officer will ask you that question . I haven’t heard of ppl getting rejected coz of Dui arrests in past and that also with charges dropped. Dui arrest is not a crime of moral turpitude and you will be allright. On the other hand, if you had got in car wreck under influence and killed somebody, you would’e got in serious legal troubles with local state law and immigration probs too .

anyways.. no need to worry at this point. Be careful next time.

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James December 1, 2012 at 10:21 pm

In 2006 I sponsored this immigrant and signed an affidavit of support. At the time, I assumed her to be a legal immigrant with a student visa. Since that time, I have found that she did indeed come into this country with a student visa but at no time attended any classes and, rather, stayed in this country for an additional three years illegally. But this is only where her criminal record begins.

In 2010, she applied for citizenship and was denied due to an arrest on February 20, 2006 for theft and another arrest for theft on May 18, 2009 (both in Kane County Illinois). Since that time, she has been arrested on three additional occasions; June 6, 2011, February 27, 2012, and most recently July 2, 2012 (all in Scott County Iowa). These arrests were also for theft charges.

In 2011, she completed a Federal Student Aid Form and received a Pell Grant and also student loans. On this application, she stated she had not received a degree prior to this filing. The fact is that she has both a Bachelor’s Degree and a Master’s Degree obtained from her home country’s university and authenticated as U.S. equivalents in 2007 at her own request. Since she already had, in fact, received these degrees, she was not eligible for the Pell Grant she received and by using this grant committed another act of fraud; this time at the federal level.

After obtaining these funds for education, she set up a business where she failed to provide payments to Social Security, the IRS and Iowa Department of Revenue on her earnings. As far as I know, she did pay Federal and State tax for 2011 when she filed in February 2012 but has not reported any earnings to the Social Security Administration.

Lastly, she has not, to my knowledge, submitted the required AR-11 form for a change of address despite moving three times since first receiving her green card.

In 2010, she was denied citizenship, and rightfully so, due to her criminal convictions. Since that time she has committed three additional crimes of theft. Despite her actions and criminal convictions of moral turpitude, Dolgorsuren has been permitted to re-enter the United States on three separate occasions in 2009, 2011 and 2011after 30 day trips to Mongolia with no attention to her inadmissibility under the immigration laws.

I understand that by signing the affidavit of support, I took responsibility for this person’s financial state. However, in so doing, I believe I also compacted with the U.S. Government that our laws would be followed regarding any criminal conduct on the part of this immigrant. I have held my end of the bargain in ensuring Dolgorsuren did not become a dependent of the state. I am asking that the US Government keep their end of the bargain in addressing the criminal conduct of this immigrant. As I understand the immigration laws, her criminal actions warrant deportation and, thus, a relinquishment of my affidavit of support.

I have sent all evidence of each of these allegations to the authorities at USCIS, ICE, Attorney General’s office and numerous senators and congressmen. Yet nothing has been done and this immigrant is able to continue using her green card to defraud the American government and the American people.

I appreciate that, as an immigrant, you are trying to steer other immigrants in teh right direction. But frankly, all the lawyer’s articles on the web (from which you seem to have gleaned considerable information) is most likely designed to scare immigrants into hiring them because, it seems, even multiple multiple crimes are not even addressed by USCIS once a person has obtained a green card.

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SAM September 15, 2010 at 8:45 pm

Hi ,

first of all, I like your article and as a non-immigrant I should read this article before entring US. Anyway I made a mistake and drove my car while I am drinking and got arrested. My BAC level was very low becuse I drunk only two beers in three hours. I hired a lawyer and the case was dismissed. the question is will this affect my re-entry to US.
Thanks
Sam

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