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What is return (ROI) for MS in USA? When will I be break-even? Average Salary after MS in US ? Savings after MS ? Return on Investment for MS in USA ?
One of the ways to look at a degree is what would be the return on your investment on education. It can be monetary or non-monetary. In this article, I will try to give my opinion on this and give some traditional and non-traditional thinking about MS in USA. This article is part of the series Guide / steps to study in USA for International students? How to plan?
How much does MS Cost?
As I have explained in previous article, What is the cost of studying in USA ? MS in US Cost? , you will have to pick and choose schools based on your financial situation and your scores. For the sake of example, I am taking average and considering $ 7,000 for tution for a semester and $ 3,000 for expenses. So, for four semesters it will be $28,000 + $12,000 = $ 40,000. It can be less like $20,000 or even less too(may be no cost) depending on scholarships, etc. I am just taking an average.
How much will I make after MS in USA? Average Salary After MS in USA ?
Though, it is getting tougher with the new H1B rules of 2011 to find a H1B sponsor, let’s assume you successfully graduate and get H1B visa to work in US and you join a company that pays minimum wage for an MS graduate. Let’s take average of $50,000 dollars. I know people in IT Jobs who start with $80,000 and even make more at their first job. But for the sake of reality, lets assume you take up a job in small firm that pays you just the H1B minimum wage or LCA prevailing wage in an area . You can see from below statistics from Indeed job search site that it can be as low as $34,000 too. For the sake of reality, lets take $50,000 as average salary.
How much will I save after MS in USA and working in Job ?
Thought it seems we are making $50,000 salary per year, you have to pay 33% of it as taxes for the most part unless you live in state like Texas where there is no state tax. Lets assume you are paying 33% taxes to IRS, then you have net income of $33,500 per year, which is $2,791 per month. Imagine you buy a new car and live in a single bed house in a decent outskirt of city and go out few times a month ( NOT in Manhattan or downtown ). At the minimum, your expense are around $1,700 – $ 2,000 per month including your monthly payment for Car. Lets say, you have 1,700 as expenditure per month. You are now left with only $2,791 – $1,700 = $1,000. You are only able to save $1,000 only if you have a decent life style. Some may argue with this, but in all reality if you live decently and make only 50K per year this is how much you will be saving.
Break Even Analysis of MS in USA :
As we have spent almost $40,000 for education and we only save $1,000 a month, it will take us 40 months to clear our debt. Our breakeven point is after 3 years 4 months. That seems quite long. May be if you get promotion and make more money you may clear a few months early may be 3 years or 2 years 9 months… This is only if you make 50K after graduation. If you make more, you clear early. You can look at the Average Salaries in the same places as above with Bachelors in USA and see the difference. It is not that much. In fact, some people do not hire MS students because you are over qualified and they cannot pay you that much as the state and USCIS mandates that you are paid as per minimum wage.
Traditional Thinking about MS and ROI :
As per traditional thinking you are making around an average of $7,000 more with your MS than Bachelors.
ROI = ( Profit / total investment )* 100
ROI for MS in USA = 7,000 / 40,000 * 100 = 17.5 %
That’s a pretty good return right? Yes and NO. If you have taken loan for 12% interest from your home country, you are making only 5.5% that’s your real return. It does not sound good, if your interest rate was less then it is good. Also, you are not making any money until 3 years 4 months or actually longer(with interest more money) until you pay off the loan. Also, imagine a person with Bachelors gets experience and moves into bigger roles after 5 years he makes as much as a masters degree person. It does not make much difference then. I am thinking very traditionally here J Anyways, traditionally thinking about MS in USA, it does not seem very attractive. The cost vs benefit of MS is not very impressive with 50K salary. It may seem attractive if you start in a 80K job and do not spend anything for MS education.
Non-Conventional way of thinking about MS and ROI :
As I wrote in my previous article about MBA and return on MBA and is it really worth studying in US, It is not just money that you should look at when doing a cost vs benefit analysis.
- You are getting higher education and information that is invaluable.
- You are investing in yourself. You are investing to grow yourself mentally
- You are getting to know how things work internally in your field of interest.
- You are studying in a new environment and learning new things.
- You are constantly challenged to balance school, work and finances
I can keep on writing…some may argue, I do not care I just need money, that’s why I am coming to US for MS…for someone who thinks on those lines of money, honestly MS is just waste of time and money. You can get the same or actually more money by getting experience working and coming to US on L1 visa and then getting H1b visa. L1 to H1B has many advantages. For someone, who do not care about money and care about research, PhD or learning more in their field of interest, it is a good way to look at MS in US as investing in yourself seeking your passion for self improvement and knowledge.
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Admiring the hard work you put into your blog and detailed information you provide.
It’s awesome to come across a blog every once in a while that isn’t the same out of date rehashed information.
Great read! I’ve saved your site and I’m including your RSS feeds
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OK!! so the post said that the MS people are not hired by many stating over-qualified?? How much truth is in that ? Can we get an official record of the placements offered to these people in their respective colleges like we do have in india??
Hi, I’m 23 years old working in IT company in India for past two years. I want to apply for MS in Fall 2013.
My GRE (which i gave last year) is 326/340 as per new marking scheme and TOEFL is 112/120.
I have 63% BE aggregate in Computer Engg. I have no backlogs. My family is in financially sound condition and able to afford cost of the education.
I want to know:
1. Whether one can get good jobs in US in current scenario after completing MS.
2. Whether it is possible to recover education costs in reasonable time if I come back to work in India after MS.
hi suyash,
First of all i would like to congratulate you for your whooping GRE and TOEFL marks..on those fronts you have absolutely nailed it.Eventhough your acadamation record is a bit on the lower side…i am pretty sure that you can get admits from an average notch institute.well if you are really passionate and ready to work hard just go for it without any second thoughts ,strongly considering your families financial condition.
Thanks for the reply Vasanth. Are you a current or prospective graduate student?
Can you please let me know which college you are from?
Hey I really liked your post. I’ve been going through some doubts and would really like to seek your help. I have poor academic record in my B.Tech Computer Science with agg. 58% and before this i completed my Dip. in CS with 79.4% . I’ve also completed my Diploma in Business Management from Symbiosis International University. Did internship from various companies like Tata Teleservices and HCL. This year i’ll complete 1 yr exp in IT field and planning to give GRE in the month of October. So will my work exp, internships and diplomas can help me to get a good university in USA for MIS despite of poor grades in Graduation?
just ant to enroll
Can you please suggest me some jobs(companies also) that will be offered after completing an MS in US. Also may you please share with me the payscales per month.
I am 4yr exp in Indian topmost IT company.
Please let me know.
Thanks,
Swini Nahata Ahuja:)
Hi,
I am a one year experienced guy working in a top MNC in India with salary 8 Lakhs per annum. I was the university topper in Btech and a gold medalist.
My records are exciting:
10th -95%
12th – 93%
Btech- 98%.
I am thinking of MS now , hoping I will get good scholarship ? I don’t have much idea about MS in US and all , so please guide me? Is it worth doing ?
I want a very good ROI and good understanding of my subject. Frankly speaking , I have got bored of my programming here and also I want to become a millionaire asap.
So please guide me .
98 percentage in BTECH..Which university men ..?You seem to be joking ..
Vikram and Baital University
Out of Your Mind University
Good try with the analysis…but salary in US after MS mentioned are almost half…at least for Comp Sci students…..I know people with following stats:
Under Grad: BE Comp Sci
Under Grad grade: Avg (60 – 70%)
Work Exp in Indian IT: 2 years
GRE Score: ranging 1200-1300
MS Comp Sci: Avg US university
SALARY: 100k onwards
Deductions:
Tax and Insurance: 33%
Living Expenses:
2000k (Levishly – Living alone in single apt and driving a nice car)
or
1000K (Economically – Living with friends and sharing an avg car)
Based on these stats:
Savings = 8000 – 2640 (Tax) – 2000 (Living) = 3360$
Most of my friends save avg 4000$ = 2,00,000 Rs monthly
Even if you are a fresher from India who just gor under grad and have no work exp, you will end up with 80K in IT or 65-70K non IT.
Here are the best and worst Masters Degree surveys and salaries from
FORBES:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2011/06/06/the-best-and-worst-masters-degrees-for-jobs/
Hi All,
I am also looking to get into a good university in US, I intend to pursue my MS in Computer Science.
I was contemplating for a few days gathering information from every where on how much could be the expense and salary etc then I bumped onto this post.
Like every one else I am also curious and worried what would be the salary expected post completion of MS as I would be taking loan for my fees.
I am also not sure on how much it would cost to pursue MS from a university like pennsylvania university or west virginia state university – some say it would not cost more than 25 lakh others say it could cost upto 40lakh.
About the salary what you have mentioned – what company they end up with?
Is there any chance of getting into Yahoo, google, nvidia, cisco, EA sports, AT NT etc, though I highly doubt they would hire any fresher. What I would like to know is if a person is good at computers and works hard in his Masters then what are the chances of getting selected (or may be in future after few years of experience ) into those companies.
According to H1B visa, one can only work for max 6 years and after that he has to stay out of US for 1 yr and then can reapply for H1B visa – is there any way where one can work for longer period, with the expiry of H1B visa it would mean that I will have to leave the job and probably find a job in India and then after few years then again look for job in US – what really happens?
I would really appreciate a response.
Thanks
Sarwesh Suman,
Answer to the last question (re: H-1) is that one can apply for 7th year extension and beyond if the Green Card process for the person has started and has reached certain stage.
Thanks for the response!
You mean first I get 6 years and then after that I can apply for 7 years of extension if I have applied for Green car within that 6 years period?
Green card can be applied through the sponsored company or is there a direct way to apply?
Thanks.
Sarwesh Suman,
That is correct. In addition, GC should have reached the certain stage (as described in my previous response) by the time 7th year extension is filed.
GC can be filed either by the current employer or any other employer. You cannot self-apply.
Thanks Saurabh.
How long does it takes to get a GC?
Sarwesh Suman,
It may take 4-6 months for the GC pre-work. Then PERM needs to be filed which can take 2-6 months to process and then I-140 needs to be filed which can take another 2-12 months to process.
The salary listed is of all of the degree holders, not just the ones from IT.
The top salary you mention in IT is generally paid for a masters in a top school, and a position that requires you to be extremely well versed and disciplined in your field. It is difficult even for a promising student to say for sure, most do not. A salary of 40-55K is generally what the fresher will make, and with experience comes 60-65K. This may sound like a large amount in Rs but the living expenses are difficult.
It a month, a practical estimate would be:
Average car payment – $450 = Rs 25500
Average apartment – $1250 = Rs 71000
Average electric, water and phone $225 = Rs 13000
Average internet – $50 = Rs 2800
Average food – $200 = Rs 11000
Average repairs – $50 = Rs 2800
Average commute – $125 = Rs 7100
Average miscellaneous taxes and fees – $20 = Rs 1100
Average general supplies – $20 = Rs 1100
Total fixed cost is $2390 = Rs 136000.
Assume you make a rather reasonable $55K
Monthly income is $4600 = Rs 260000.
Taxes are $1300 = Rs 74000
Fixed expenses are Rs 2390 = 136000 .
Left over
$910 = Rs 51700.
If you do nothing but go to work, and come home, and sleep. If you like to go out, this will easily be spent and there will be no savings. All this for a mostly lonely life away from home. The opportunity is there, but it is a struggle. If you like home, stay.
Hi Kumar,
I am applying for Ms and I am glad I bumped into your article.
I am currently working in a startup company for 2 years now and honestly in India I dont see any scope for technical growth as such. The statistics you have provided are very convincing. However can u tell me an alternative course here in India which would enhance the technical know how?
Hi Sheetal,
Can you specify your job profile?
If you are in IT, best thing would be following:
1. Improve your technical skills, get certifications. Get lot of work experience. Make sure you get promoted on regular intervals or even before Avg promotions and salaries in Indian IT are as follows:
Year 1 – 2 : Fresher (2 – 3 Lakhs)
Year 3 – 4 : Programmer (3 – 6 Lakhs)
Year 4 – 6 : Senior Programmer: (6 – 8 Lakhs)
Year 7 – 10 : Manager (8 – 12 Lakhs)
Note: These are avg salaries and years.
Doing masters in CS in India won’t help you getting good job in India or good salary (at least in IT). Even i have seen people who came back from US after Masters in CS and having almost same salaries as mentioned above.
Companies look for your market value and then give you the job. not your degree.
If you go for MBA in India after few years of experience, that will be a better profile and can add 2-3 lakhs to above mentioned salaries.
But i would suggest, you should go for MS in US, if:
1. You want to enhance technical knowledge.
2. Want to work on cutting edge aspects/technologies/subjects.
3. Get satisfaction of being highly educated and good job.
4. Earn more money than avg Indian IT guy or Indian MBA guy right from year 1.
Hi Guys,
I did M.Sc. in analytical chemistry from pune university followed by one year of work in a pharmaceutical company as a scientist .Then I opted for M.S. in Chemistry from San Francisco State University, CA and graduated this august 2011.I have one year of work visa (OPT) ,but I wish to go back to India and work.
I would appreciate if anybody could let me know what range of salary I should be expecting, with my degrees and experiences in India.
At this moment I don’t see any solid reason to be in USA other than to help myself repaying my loan!
Kindly reply if anybody has some idea.
Thank you
Yogita
Why do you want to come back Yogita? Many people I know never wants to return. What is it that stops you from staying there?
Great post! It is so sad that people look at an M.S as a means to enter United States. It is more of an oppurtunity to learn about a new country, the teaching, some new academic courses and invest in outself. More than the academic content, I feel the total atmosphere is what is worth its value.
I’ve a CGPA of 8.59
class 12: 84%
class 10: 85%
I’ve passed out in 2011,I’ve a good final year project which was also published as a paper.
I’m currently employed with a reputed IT firm in India. My question is will my work experience help in doing MS. What kind of universities can I expect to get admission in US?I’m a B.Tech in computer science, will like to go for an MS in computer science in US . Please help.
Your CGPA is good.
US universities look for overall performance of students and not on single aspect. After you apply for MS in US, they will look for following:
1. Your grades
2. Research work/paper published/open source contribution
3. GRE Score
4. Work Experience (don’t count on this though)(but certainly help, say 20% if you apply for MS in CS or MS in SE or MS in MIS as you are working in IT firm).
You can get admitted to Harward or even Stanford if you are strong in all 4 points above.
Hi,
I’ve a paper which I presented at a seminar for IEEE and it was published through the portal at my college.
I’m currently working at one of the top 3 ranked IT firms in India and if I make it to US for my MS I should have an experience of 2 years by then. Kindly let me know what you think of my profile.
Hey Kumar,
Read your post and I must thank you for all the information and analysis. Many people may agree, many may disagree to your analysis, but the summary is clearly out : Life is not easy if you are just thinking of making money fast by doing a MS in US.
As far as my case goes: I am a Mechanical Engineer with decent grades and an IT experience of close to 4 years with an Indian IT giant.I was thinking about the option of doing a MS in CS from US, since my H1B through my company is taking ages to get processed.I have loads of interest in what I am doing now and would want to pursue MS for being in a better shape in my field of interest.But saving money and going for a MBA from US is my larger goal.
Having said that, can you suggest if going for a MS with 4 yrs of exp can be rewarding, are the chances of getting a job better with a higher relevant experience. I do have some certifications to my credit.Will wait for your reply.
Arnav,
Strategically, if you have MBA in your mind, I would not go for MS. It may not add a lot of value… Read this article Should I apply for MS or MBA
I would suggest directly go for MBA in US, if you have that much money in savings.
Otherwise doing MS first (2 years), job in US (3 years) and then go for MBA in US. (Long story but worth it).
what you said all about is not at all exactly right dear
the salary for a student after completing ms is 4000$ only
don’t fool others know about it properly and submit
its all our student lives
hi, is this pay for per annum or a month?
I totally agree.
Hello guys. I am looking forward to do MS in Mech.Engg. I’ve been reading your articles for a while,
which are very instructive and useful, but the picture doesn’t look optimistic and I am starting to have second thoughts.
I would very much appreciate information on following queries I’ve in my mind.
1. How is the job scenario in US? Are students able to get jobs after MS?
Do universities conduct campus interviews by inviting companies or students
have to find jobs on their own?
2. How much is the average pay after MS? People these days say that there is better pay
in India than US. So, is it economical to go to US or to stay in India? may I know the difference in
salaries of a person working in US & that in India? (Starting salaries & increments as one goes on gaining experience)
3. How many years does it take just to clear the debts supposing one had to raise money by
taking a loan?
4. Is there any effect of recession on core engineering fields? Would it get better in coming two or three years?
Detailed information would be very much appreciated.
Any E-Mail IDs of people currently studying or doing jobs in US would be most helpful.Thanks.
Hey, am in final year of B tech and thinking of pursuing M S in US. So if you can help me any how please reply me on my mail.
hi, i m doing B.E(Comp Sci & Engg), i will pass out this year….
I m looking to do MS in US ..
i want 2 knw wht is the maximum overall cost needed to do MS program in US without any scholarship??
assuming my MS pass out year as 2013..
& wht is the minimum ROI(savings) per month after getting job in US of around 50,000$ p.a???
Hii..
i am working in a MNC(3.15L p.a, 1 yr work-x). I am planning for MS in comp. science
in North Dakota Sate Uiversity,Fargo. how are the future prospects after passing out from there (can i consider $50000 to be an aveage sal for this university).
also i am in a dilemma of whether to go for MS in US or MBA in india.If i manage to get full scholarship for MS,which would be a better option to go with.
Money is the most imp factor here, as i have engineering loan to clear and other financial responsibilities to come in near future.
Well I hate when ppl do this, but when I saw your article I had to comment against it. At the outset I am sorry, but I believe your calculations are wrong. If a student, with a $40,000 loan from India can only save $1000 per month, there is something wrong. Here are few things I would like to point out:
I will assume a student gets out of college on December 2010. He will be in OPT till May 2013 (after 17 month extension). His tax will not be 33%, but rather 17-18% including state tax. Those paying SS and medicare(which brings the tax to 33%) need to remove them from their check. (Then if you transfer to H1B in May 2013, well lets say you will be earning at least 60k which will counter the increase in taxes. If you are earning 50k even after 27 months, get away from that consultant.) So assuming that a MS makes $50,000 or $4150 per month, here is the break up:
1) Tax: $4150 – $700 tax = $3450
Living expenses: Again those spending 1700 in my opinion is a bit high and can be reduced. $400 for room (live with an extra person, reduce the cost)+ $200 (for a decent car lease). Let us add $700 for grocery + utilities. Add 150 for insurance, total comes up to $1450.
2) Living expenses: $3450 – $1450 = $2000.
This should be figure everyone except those in Bay Area should be aiming for. I still think my figure can be hiked by couple of hundreds. But, this should be an achievable figure.
Now, $40,000 is again a very high figure. Tuition is all fine. But, why can’t ppl coming here work? Lets not talk scholarships, lets talk on-campus jobs which fetch $7/hr. Few work illegally, I cannot advise for it. I recently graduated from a private college (hence costlier) from Chicago (not as costly as NYC, not very cheap either) my loan availed is 13 lakhs or $28000 at today’s rate. It was not an impossible feat. Not something I display proudly, but, I am responsible for the loan and that is why I spent efficiently. And what about one year CPT. Utilize it to gain something. I was working as a consultant at $11/hr during CPT. But, that still came to $1500 per month (after taxes) or $18000 per year during CPT. You can pay for a couple of credit. If you sit back relax or don’t plan, you will be paying for the relaxation right?
As for as the ROI is concerned, yours is valid for the first one / two years while you are paying off the loan. Then 17.5 pc increase does matter. What about the investment you make from the 17.5 percent? I am investing LIC in India as part of my investment plan. Why not maximize your ROI?
I am not advising everyone to come here. It is getting harder. Just thought when I could do certain things with the payscale you suggested, my friend could do it without suffering and in a very shorter span of time, then those who cannot, need to sit down and go through their expenses on sites like Mint.com, plan budgets, set goals and achieve them.
You just raised my hopes a little
please suggest me how to compete in good universities of us .My cgpa is 7.8/10 (78%).
I got 81.4 % in 10th (in 2004) and 75.1%(in 2006) in 12th . i don’t hav good project.I will finish my graduation in may 2011.I am placed in patni computers right now.Tell me the average score needed for getting admission in good universities of U.S.
Is there any racial discrimaination.
Pankaj,
I think you have decent CGPA…. What do you plan to apply ? MS or MBA ?
No, there will not be any such discrimination for admission.
Hi,
I am ready to live close to poverty just to repay my loan…. 1000$ per month savings is not enough… I hope to save more than 2000$, only then can I repay my loan… I wont buy any car and I wont eat outside… I will share apartments, no luxury spending… also try to get a job in semi urban areas…. (not NY or california), may be try to get a job in states without state taxes…
Thanky Thanky for all this good ifrnmoation!
Why don’t you stay back in India then ??
Good analysis…
Hi,
I am ready to live close to poverty just to repay my loan…. 1000$ per month savings is not enough… I hope to save more than 2000$, only then can I repay my loan… I wont buy any car and I wont eat outside… I will share apartments, no luxury spending… also try to get a job in semi urban areas…. (not NY or california), may be try to get a job in states without state taxes…
Dear kumar ,
Im soooo happy with the above information provided by you, speaking frankly words are not enough to express my happiness about the help that you have done to me unknowingly by providing the above information.keep up the good work sir.
Welcome Raghav !
You have written about not getting returns if a student has taken a loan,however are your views similar when a student goes for his/her MS with a full scholarship? Please let me know, I think a full scholarship will make his pay grade much higher than any Indian Company pays him…
Chetan, if you get full scholarship, logically you have not spent much money and obviously you can expect to have a greater return.
As you have pointed correctly, things change drastically if you study and/or work in Manhattan, New York or in downtown of big cities.
Rent will be extremely high. Groceries are expensive. In addition, since there will be so many dining and partying options, you will spend more frequently, and you will spend more since prices will be higher. But commuting will be a lot cheaper as you won’t need a car – so no monthly payment for car, auto insurance, gas etc. You just need city transportation subway/bus pass or tokens. Generally speaking, jobs in New York, anyways, have a slightly higher pay to take the expenses into account. However, you will end up saving lesser than your friends in other small cities/towns. Your lifestyle will be a lot hectic and socially active.
Kumar ,
greetings
you are really writing from the heart. after reading this article on pay out to MS degree holder, the studies looks no good. 33% as a tax on your earnings
nothing is left,then why should one study MS,?
Can you throw some light on this please
thanks
easwaran
India
Easwaran, Well, life is not just about money….some come to US for good education, some come to have a good life, some just come to make money….
Read these articles : What are your goals for studying MS in US and
If MS in US what is your goal professor or Scientist ?
My wonderful Kumar
greetings and many many thanks for your :response” my dear
i am so glad to be with you through this reply.I wish i could be young student looking for studies with goal. you are really helping many unknown faces honestly.keep doing friend, you will soar higher and higher , that is one thing is certain. May Existence bless you further .
with lots of love and blessings
easwaran
Inddia
Thanks for nice words Easwaran !
Please help me ,
Which one will fetch me more money after graduation MS OR MBA in US..
Well, money does not depend on the degree. It depends on the kind of job and your role and also your experience.
Now this is called a spot on question
… loved it
i got mba as my final aim but i want to do it from the top b schools like wharton, harvard or sloan(mit). but these demand a good job experience. so for that i have decded that i could do ms in computer science and get the job experience say for about 6 years and then apply. doing so i not only increase my chances of getting in but also might be able to fund my education. can you suggest something..
thanks
Well, I do not think there is need to do MS in CS if you plan to do MBA. You can just work for 5 years and then apply to these Business schools directly for MBA. I think that 2 years of MS can be a waste of time (just as it happened to me). Only thing you have to plan is how to finance your education, MBA from these schools is very expensive…
one of the reasons ill be doing ms would be funding my education with a better salary after doing so.
I wonder if getting MS would guarantee you better salary…Masters is not a requirement for most of the jobs here in US unless it is a highly critical position with lot of experience.
im stuck with this dilemma! i really need to think of something asap!
what would you project as a salary after MS
That’s what the whole article is about… Masters means typically MS, read the article again !
Please help me, i got job in MNC (CSC) with 3.75L(anum)package and also applied for MS computer science got i-20′s from universities(average universities) in US.
now please suggest me which one should i take JOB or MS in US.or is it better to go for MS or MBA after some experience.
Question replied in Forum : http://www.redbus2us.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81&p=462#p462
@ author
It was an eye opener.I got admits for MIS (management and information systems) from kelley business school(indiana bloomington) ,eller(arizona-tucson)and syracuse,is it worth investing on MIS? Which university should i select for best returns?
I cannot really recommend a particular school without proper information as I am not up to date on the Universities info. MIS is a good degree, if your careers paths are as listed in the article : http://redbus2us.com/careers-of-ms-in-mis-vs-cs-computer-sciences-in-usa-mis-careers/